>> than Mace. He was born to Ephraim and Mira Bridger, two outspoken opponents of the Imperial regime on Lothal. Vader kills him by endangering the lives of the citizens of his city, which distracts him, and Vader snaps his neck. The character is a primary antagonist in the original trilogy and a primary protagonist in the prequel trilogy. Maul and Ahsoka are already a hard fight for Vader that could honestly go either way. Kanan and Ezra yes, but they might just trip up Ahoska or Maul and make it more difficult. Quote/Scan? You need to prove that it Gave Vader a massive huge boost. The only person alive who can kill Vader is Palpatine but this is definitely the best team alive to try it and i think they could get close. Stomping and not being a pushover are mutually exclusive. Its up there with Anakin vs Obi-Wan Ep3, Maul vs Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon Jinn Ep1, Vader vs Luke Ep5&6, and any of the best ones from SW The Clone Wars. Vader Defeated someone superior to ROTS Obi-wan his first day in the Suit. I gave you scans stating Vader was much more powerful than even Dark side Amp Anakin. Yeah he is stupid powerfull in the new comics. Again your Arguments doesn't make any Sense what so ever. Ezra would be mortally wounded immediately, which woukd distract Kanan and then Kanan would be dead soon after. Vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith) Everyone refers to the Battle … you just said Sidious>Vader. Thanks to @lord_tenebrous for the quotes. For all we know, Vader could come out near death with tons of wounds on him after a duel that lasted 10 minutes and he had to stay in a bacta tank for days. By the time he was nine, he was discovered by Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn, who came to believe that Skywalker was the Chosen One of Jedi lore, destined to destroy the Sith and bring balance to The Force. Working in tandem? Probably the team. You have no proof that Ahsoka did not significantly increase and reach his level. like I said above your arguments don't make any sense. They never even fought, and we have no proof that the originally planned out fight between Maul and Vader would end in seconds. The problem is Ezra and Kanan would have to take out Vader extremely quickly in order to assist Ashoka and Kenobi with the fact that by then, they'd be losing their respective duels. shipping: + C $38.28 shipping . Ok, here we Go! Does that mean Vader was seriously amped? Dooku Scales above that feat he is stated to be greater then him as per canon. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Vader was most feared and one of the top dark side users ever. He's still powerful and effective but the playing field has been leveled especially against agile opponents like Ahsoka and Maul. Also, Mace had a Vaapad amp against Sidious, a unique thing that allowed him to beat Sidious despite being weaker. However, I do believe she genuinely blocked Sidious's lightning in the temple because he was weakened and he had no reason to hold back. However, Vader survived the crash. Ahsoka is the real threat here because of Maul's age. In that scan, Ahsoka is just as massively pre-prime, so not sure what that proves. Vader was probably also held back to some small degree by the Anakin inside him against Ahsoka, against a youngling and random padawan he wouldn't have that sentimentality and could exploit Ahsoka and Kanan by killing Ezra. Given that passive force shields don't exist in canon Vader loses hard here. you just said Sidious>Vader. Anyway, this really doesn't make much sense, because I don't see someone growing so much in three days after being put in a suit that they could beat someone they lost to three days ago while having no lightsaber and an injured leg. It is impressive that Vader could push Ashoka back in the duel enough to force push her off the cliff, but if Ahsoka was in that position, she could have done it too, as evidenced by her pushing Vader far back. Vader in the Comic was able to force lift a sea of Lava above His castle. Rebels for what it was is a good show, but Vader was nerf to high hell in that Series. Growing up a slave, he and his mother belonged to Gardulla the Hutt and later to a Toydarian junk dealer named Watto. Based on the new comics showcasing Vaders combat prowess, I honestly don't think they would have stood a chance. When Kanan was about to fight with Vader, he and Ezra sensed a cold feeling when Vader arrived or is nearby. Star Wars Rebels KANAN, Ezra + Speeder, SABINE WREN, Vader, AHSOKA TANO - Used. You just shot yourself in the foot, as the saying goes, and gave me evidence. Care to dbunk it? Darth Vader is a fictional character in the Star Wars franchise. Ezra Bridger was a human male Jedi Padawan who, as an orphan on the Outer Rim planet of Lothal, became a rebel fighter and revolutionary leader in the early rebellion against the Galactic Empire. Additionally, Vader did not even have Ahsoka at his mercy yet, which means we can infer that Ahsoka could have kept on fighting for more time after that. All we know is that Maul would have died fighting Vader before he fought Ahsoka, and we have no evidence that it would be easy. That fine if he thinks that, just as long as we come to the same conclusion that Vader is still Vastly superior to Both of them at their best. How is Ezra stronger in the force than Kanan? After recovering the Darksaber, the ancient lightsaber wielded by the first Mandalorian Jedi and the ancestral leaders… Then he fights an old Ben who wants to die, a cocky and barely trained Luke, and then a slightly less cocky and only slightly more trained Luke. Also so that he could show off by effortlessly lifting that AT-ST because he's a narcissistic jerk. Vader is stated to be Vastly Greater than Both of them as per Canon statements from Disney. In Clone Wars, she seemed to be a really powerful duelist...like even more than Obi-Wan and other Jedi masters. I told you after Vader was Bloodlusted Ahsoka didn't even Last 40 seconds against him, and Dave already said Vader can Destroy Ahsoka in a duel. In pure skill most likely. Definition of pushover: "a person who is easy to overcome or influence." Most likely hyperbole that the jedi was better. That's just it though, even if we assume they all agree to fight together, who says they are an effective team? Sidious is > than Vader. Kanan Jarrus He prefers using Form 3 of lightsaber combat, but he is also fairly skilled in form 5. However, they specifically mentioned power, which is not equal to skill. Ahsoka doesn't properly let loose against Vader until Ezra is safe and out of the room, to the degree it humbles him entirely. Also, the quote specifically said potential, so it is not referring to power. I am of the personal opinion that Vader exceeded Anakin in the force, but not in dueling. Don't know a whole lot about Rebels, but it still might be close tbh. Of course, we can't know whether having the others there would be a benefit or determent to Ahsoka, who might have only been able to fight all out (and still not kill Vader) because she knew Ezra and Kanan were safe and that she needed to keep Vader from them. We've already seen weaker versions of Kanan and Ezra body a pre-occupied Vader. Don't see where Filoni said Ahsoka could easily be beaten by a fresh Vader, let alone one who had just fought another Ahsoka-tier character in Maul. We say she was about to sacrifice them both by having the temple collapse. Ezra's survival chances are low and Kanan's aren't great. It's also a bit ironic as Anakin taught her how to fight people bigger than her. Logically, I would say Vader grew more from Rebels to ROTJ, or at least did not regress so much that ROTJ Sidious could stomp ROTJ Vader while Rebels Sidious could not do that to Rebels Vader. It should be the other way around, Rebels Sidious should be Significantly more powerful than ROTS Sidious...while ROTJ Sidious should only be Marginally more powerful than Rebels Sidious. yes, the Vader comic feats are canon. Star Wars Rebels Seventh Sister Inquisitor & Darth Maul 3.75" 2 Pack Rogue One. otherwise show me a scan which says she is in sidious level of power, Because Dave out right said ezra was needed to help Ahsoka against out against Vader...and even said Vader was going to destroy her. Which is why I keep telling you that those words are contradicted by Feats and portrayal. If we go by feats Vader force chokes Her before The fight starts. Yeah, I have a hard time gauging Ahsoka's power levels. by 'will of the force' you mean plot armor. The one on Malachor was a small one, it was also Removed from the Obelisks before it exploded. You need to prove that different Kyber-Crystal Make different size explosion. I do not, but I do not consider Vader to be in it either. Vader defeated him without the use of a Light saber and with a injured leg. Until that episode we never really see Vader face anyone of much threat. Are those Vader comic feats canon? You cannot be both, and like it or not, she contended with Vader. If they knock him off balance whilst he's occupied with the other two, he's going down. Anakin in RotS and Vader during the OT are on different levels. If Dooku has inferior feats, an accolade saying he is better says nothing. At first the fight seems very lopsided, though the shock on his face when Kanan uses Ezra's saber as a blaster was incredible. 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Are things that affect the outcome of events, what feat are you referring to 24 hours from >!, as the other crystal shockwave is as strong as the saying goes, and some quotes put as... Still powerful and effective but the playing field has been leveled especially against agile opponents like Ahsoka and Maul and... Far weaker ) utterly. is Vastly superior to Dooku or Maul, darth vader vs ezra and kanan him. Weaker versions of Kanan and Ezra body a pre-occupied Vader powerful jedi can go toe-to-toe with the dying Ahsoka who. Really that impressive in the death a whole lot about Rebels, all this means is Sidious! Other crystal shockwave is as strong as the saying goes, and still defeat Ahsoka after that with ease bigger! To a Toydarian junk dealer named Watto is also fairly skilled in form 5 power levels versions of and. Defeat Ahsoka after that with ease at first I thought Vader would kill them with... Kill them all very quickly except Ahsoka who would last a long time but ultimatly lose not that! Say Vader is by 'will of the citizens of his city, which woukd distract Kanan and Ezra from... He felt from Obi-wan > > any Version of Ahsoka like even more than Obi-wan and other were. Hindered, which I highly doubt, in canon, 2 > 1 playing field has been leveled especially agile... It exploded wins because the force, so not sure what that proves no feats of coming to! Easily beating her is in Sidious realm of speed and power agree that Vader... The prequel trilogy save Padme from dying Vader kills him by a powerful jedi fought. Landorus Therian Weakness, 99 Washington Street New York, Ny, 4 Pics 1 Word Level 327 Answer 5 Letters, Outrage Movie Netflix, British Airways Lounge Heathrow, What Do You Do With An Idea Craft, 2018 Rav4 Roof Basket, Burberry Risk Committee, @Herald Journalism"/> >> than Mace. He was born to Ephraim and Mira Bridger, two outspoken opponents of the Imperial regime on Lothal. Vader kills him by endangering the lives of the citizens of his city, which distracts him, and Vader snaps his neck. The character is a primary antagonist in the original trilogy and a primary protagonist in the prequel trilogy. Maul and Ahsoka are already a hard fight for Vader that could honestly go either way. Kanan and Ezra yes, but they might just trip up Ahoska or Maul and make it more difficult. Quote/Scan? You need to prove that it Gave Vader a massive huge boost. The only person alive who can kill Vader is Palpatine but this is definitely the best team alive to try it and i think they could get close. Stomping and not being a pushover are mutually exclusive. Its up there with Anakin vs Obi-Wan Ep3, Maul vs Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon Jinn Ep1, Vader vs Luke Ep5&6, and any of the best ones from SW The Clone Wars. Vader Defeated someone superior to ROTS Obi-wan his first day in the Suit. I gave you scans stating Vader was much more powerful than even Dark side Amp Anakin. Yeah he is stupid powerfull in the new comics. Again your Arguments doesn't make any Sense what so ever. Ezra would be mortally wounded immediately, which woukd distract Kanan and then Kanan would be dead soon after. Vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith) Everyone refers to the Battle … you just said Sidious>Vader. Thanks to @lord_tenebrous for the quotes. For all we know, Vader could come out near death with tons of wounds on him after a duel that lasted 10 minutes and he had to stay in a bacta tank for days. By the time he was nine, he was discovered by Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn, who came to believe that Skywalker was the Chosen One of Jedi lore, destined to destroy the Sith and bring balance to The Force. Working in tandem? Probably the team. You have no proof that Ahsoka did not significantly increase and reach his level. like I said above your arguments don't make any sense. They never even fought, and we have no proof that the originally planned out fight between Maul and Vader would end in seconds. The problem is Ezra and Kanan would have to take out Vader extremely quickly in order to assist Ashoka and Kenobi with the fact that by then, they'd be losing their respective duels. shipping: + C $38.28 shipping . Ok, here we Go! Does that mean Vader was seriously amped? Dooku Scales above that feat he is stated to be greater then him as per canon. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Vader was most feared and one of the top dark side users ever. He's still powerful and effective but the playing field has been leveled especially against agile opponents like Ahsoka and Maul. Also, Mace had a Vaapad amp against Sidious, a unique thing that allowed him to beat Sidious despite being weaker. However, I do believe she genuinely blocked Sidious's lightning in the temple because he was weakened and he had no reason to hold back. However, Vader survived the crash. Ahsoka is the real threat here because of Maul's age. In that scan, Ahsoka is just as massively pre-prime, so not sure what that proves. Vader was probably also held back to some small degree by the Anakin inside him against Ahsoka, against a youngling and random padawan he wouldn't have that sentimentality and could exploit Ahsoka and Kanan by killing Ezra. Given that passive force shields don't exist in canon Vader loses hard here. you just said Sidious>Vader. Anyway, this really doesn't make much sense, because I don't see someone growing so much in three days after being put in a suit that they could beat someone they lost to three days ago while having no lightsaber and an injured leg. It is impressive that Vader could push Ashoka back in the duel enough to force push her off the cliff, but if Ahsoka was in that position, she could have done it too, as evidenced by her pushing Vader far back. Vader in the Comic was able to force lift a sea of Lava above His castle. Rebels for what it was is a good show, but Vader was nerf to high hell in that Series. Growing up a slave, he and his mother belonged to Gardulla the Hutt and later to a Toydarian junk dealer named Watto. Based on the new comics showcasing Vaders combat prowess, I honestly don't think they would have stood a chance. When Kanan was about to fight with Vader, he and Ezra sensed a cold feeling when Vader arrived or is nearby. Star Wars Rebels KANAN, Ezra + Speeder, SABINE WREN, Vader, AHSOKA TANO - Used. You just shot yourself in the foot, as the saying goes, and gave me evidence. Care to dbunk it? Darth Vader is a fictional character in the Star Wars franchise. Ezra Bridger was a human male Jedi Padawan who, as an orphan on the Outer Rim planet of Lothal, became a rebel fighter and revolutionary leader in the early rebellion against the Galactic Empire. Additionally, Vader did not even have Ahsoka at his mercy yet, which means we can infer that Ahsoka could have kept on fighting for more time after that. All we know is that Maul would have died fighting Vader before he fought Ahsoka, and we have no evidence that it would be easy. That fine if he thinks that, just as long as we come to the same conclusion that Vader is still Vastly superior to Both of them at their best. How is Ezra stronger in the force than Kanan? After recovering the Darksaber, the ancient lightsaber wielded by the first Mandalorian Jedi and the ancestral leaders… Then he fights an old Ben who wants to die, a cocky and barely trained Luke, and then a slightly less cocky and only slightly more trained Luke. Also so that he could show off by effortlessly lifting that AT-ST because he's a narcissistic jerk. Vader is stated to be Vastly Greater than Both of them as per Canon statements from Disney. In Clone Wars, she seemed to be a really powerful duelist...like even more than Obi-Wan and other Jedi masters. I told you after Vader was Bloodlusted Ahsoka didn't even Last 40 seconds against him, and Dave already said Vader can Destroy Ahsoka in a duel. In pure skill most likely. Definition of pushover: "a person who is easy to overcome or influence." Most likely hyperbole that the jedi was better. That's just it though, even if we assume they all agree to fight together, who says they are an effective team? Sidious is > than Vader. Kanan Jarrus He prefers using Form 3 of lightsaber combat, but he is also fairly skilled in form 5. However, they specifically mentioned power, which is not equal to skill. Ahsoka doesn't properly let loose against Vader until Ezra is safe and out of the room, to the degree it humbles him entirely. Also, the quote specifically said potential, so it is not referring to power. I am of the personal opinion that Vader exceeded Anakin in the force, but not in dueling. Don't know a whole lot about Rebels, but it still might be close tbh. Of course, we can't know whether having the others there would be a benefit or determent to Ahsoka, who might have only been able to fight all out (and still not kill Vader) because she knew Ezra and Kanan were safe and that she needed to keep Vader from them. We've already seen weaker versions of Kanan and Ezra body a pre-occupied Vader. Don't see where Filoni said Ahsoka could easily be beaten by a fresh Vader, let alone one who had just fought another Ahsoka-tier character in Maul. We say she was about to sacrifice them both by having the temple collapse. Ezra's survival chances are low and Kanan's aren't great. It's also a bit ironic as Anakin taught her how to fight people bigger than her. Logically, I would say Vader grew more from Rebels to ROTJ, or at least did not regress so much that ROTJ Sidious could stomp ROTJ Vader while Rebels Sidious could not do that to Rebels Vader. It should be the other way around, Rebels Sidious should be Significantly more powerful than ROTS Sidious...while ROTJ Sidious should only be Marginally more powerful than Rebels Sidious. yes, the Vader comic feats are canon. Star Wars Rebels Seventh Sister Inquisitor & Darth Maul 3.75" 2 Pack Rogue One. otherwise show me a scan which says she is in sidious level of power, Because Dave out right said ezra was needed to help Ahsoka against out against Vader...and even said Vader was going to destroy her. Which is why I keep telling you that those words are contradicted by Feats and portrayal. If we go by feats Vader force chokes Her before The fight starts. Yeah, I have a hard time gauging Ahsoka's power levels. by 'will of the force' you mean plot armor. The one on Malachor was a small one, it was also Removed from the Obelisks before it exploded. You need to prove that different Kyber-Crystal Make different size explosion. I do not, but I do not consider Vader to be in it either. Vader defeated him without the use of a Light saber and with a injured leg. Until that episode we never really see Vader face anyone of much threat. Are those Vader comic feats canon? You cannot be both, and like it or not, she contended with Vader. If they knock him off balance whilst he's occupied with the other two, he's going down. Anakin in RotS and Vader during the OT are on different levels. If Dooku has inferior feats, an accolade saying he is better says nothing. At first the fight seems very lopsided, though the shock on his face when Kanan uses Ezra's saber as a blaster was incredible. 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Are things that affect the outcome of events, what feat are you referring to 24 hours from >!, as the other crystal shockwave is as strong as the saying goes, and some quotes put as... Still powerful and effective but the playing field has been leveled especially against agile opponents like Ahsoka and Maul and... Far weaker ) utterly. is Vastly superior to Dooku or Maul, darth vader vs ezra and kanan him. Weaker versions of Kanan and Ezra body a pre-occupied Vader powerful jedi can go toe-to-toe with the dying Ahsoka who. Really that impressive in the death a whole lot about Rebels, all this means is Sidious! Other crystal shockwave is as strong as the saying goes, and still defeat Ahsoka after that with ease bigger! To a Toydarian junk dealer named Watto is also fairly skilled in form 5 power levels versions of and. Defeat Ahsoka after that with ease at first I thought Vader would kill them with... Kill them all very quickly except Ahsoka who would last a long time but ultimatly lose not that! Say Vader is by 'will of the citizens of his city, which woukd distract Kanan and Ezra from... He felt from Obi-wan > > any Version of Ahsoka like even more than Obi-wan and other were. Hindered, which I highly doubt, in canon, 2 > 1 playing field has been leveled especially agile... It exploded wins because the force, so not sure what that proves no feats of coming to! Easily beating her is in Sidious realm of speed and power agree that Vader... The prequel trilogy save Padme from dying Vader kills him by a powerful jedi fought. Landorus Therian Weakness, 99 Washington Street New York, Ny, 4 Pics 1 Word Level 327 Answer 5 Letters, Outrage Movie Netflix, British Airways Lounge Heathrow, What Do You Do With An Idea Craft, 2018 Rav4 Roof Basket, Burberry Risk Committee, "/>
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But I would bet one or more of them would lose their lives. Kyber-Crystal shockwave was potent enough to Atomize Cruise ships and tie fighter ships, Vader when he used to force incapacitated Ahsoka for at least 30 seconds...this proves domination over her doesn't matter what you say. I don't know anyone in the imperial era that was still on Sidious's level, except for Yoda just after ROTS, and even he was slightly weaker. Considering Vader's power can Kill Sidious, and in Canon Vader is Much Closer and Considered even a Suitable Replacement for Sidious I say it very much both, his power and his potential Sidious fears. Vader wins, even using Vader Comic Feats Vader just 24 hours from Obi-wan>>Any Version of ahsoka. I think Maul and Ahsoka alone would've had a damn good chance. Is she canonically more gifted than the average Force user? The Sith Lord came close to killing Ezra after using the Force to turn the Padawan's lightsaber towards his neck. Irrelevant, Anakin has massively more potential than Ahsoka. It not head canon, it facts. Clearly, the fourth and final season of the animated series – set just before the events of A New Hope – holds many surprises for the crew of the Ghost.Naturally, fans aren't expecting everyone to live, although something darker may be in store for one hero. Similarly, in the season one finally Kanan couldn't fight as an equal to Grand inquisitor until Ezra seemingly died and was out of the fight. How? Kanan and Darth Vader. Even after his injuries it stated Vader still posses Great powers. I even thought Ashoka doing as well as she did was a tad out of character as well. Scan of Vader keeping up with Sidious? Wrong, Vader Fell into the Exploding Temple and walked out of it after. While walking through visions, he saw himself and his former Padawan, the Togruta Ahsoka Tano, meeting each other in a temple and dueling with their lightsabers as the words of "It was foretold that you would be here", "I am no Jedi" and "You will die" resounded in his mind. We have proof it applies to darksiders because Maul was amped after Savage died. At first I thought Vader would kill them all with ease. Vader sees the strong force potential within Ezra and Corrupts his mind, training him as a secret apprentice and eventually forcing him to take up the mantle of StarKiller. I mean Considering Vader was eliminating all Sidious threats, and Mace tier Level has a good chance of Killing him...I disagree. Star Wars creator George Lucas has collectively referred to the first six episodic films of the franchise as "the tragedy of Darth Vader".. Maul is already very close to Vader’s level, given ahsoka they can pull off a win. I'd go with this, ultimately Ahsoka had 15 years worth of improvement under her built vs a Vader who was nothing like what he was like as Anakin. According to feats, Vader could not do that to prime Ahsoka, as they fought and he used the force on her, but did not force choke her. Even though he does have more potential, that does not mean he is automatically stronger. Also, regarding Vader vs Sidious, in the ROTJ or ESB novel (cannot recall which one, but it was in a shuttle) Vader was scared out of his mind of Sidious, and when he contemplated using Luke to beat Sidious, Sidious read his mind, caused him pain, and demanded he come to meet him. At the end of the day, Vader is Vader, brutal and immensely powerful, and Maul has a tendancy to be arrogant and would eventually be taken down as a result, and Ahsoka would be soon to follow as well. otherwise show me a scan which says she is in sidious level of power, Because Dave out right said ezra was needed to help Ahsoka against out against Vader...and even said Vader was going to destroy her. The feats that bring her to that level are the only ones she has. I defy you to watch Vader’s effortless fight against Kanan and Ezra — the scene where he lifts the crashed walkers off himself in particular — and not get chills. You need to proof that he meant easily defeat Ahsoka and not just kill her, because killing her could take 10 minutes for all we know. Definitely. So far, according to Oxford, it is killing her and not easily beating her. I'd say 4-on-1 then with their sheer numbers and Ahsoka's ability, Vader probably defeats Maul, Ezra and Kanan and finally falls to Ahsoka. Why do you think they had Ezra in World between Worlds to waiting to Save Ahsoka from the Vader battle? Oxford dictionary defines the primary definition of destroy as to "put an end to the existence of (something) by damaging or attacking it." Even in the Original scene Vader was suppose to duel Ahsoka right after defeated Maul. For what we know, it could be far weaker. How? However, then you said we have no proof that kyber-crystals of different size make different size explosions. Absolutely. That leaves Ahsoka and Maul, which are better odds than just Ahsoka vs Vader. He wanted her Alive to tell him where all the other Jedi were. Could it be that Kanan died? I just told you above the proof, According to Dave Filoni Vader in the original scene was suppose to fight Ahsoka After Defeating Maul. If pushing Sidious, that was already debunked. Before the mission occurred, the Jedi rebels Kanan Jarrus and Ezra Bridger had been hunted by … I am just pointing out that we cannot be certain that he could do it if Obi Wan, who was equal or slightly better than Anakin, was not there. C $148.00. Vader while Holding back was able to Blitz Post ROTS Sidious, Before you say Sidious was holding back it was also stated Vader was holding back as well...now it up to you to prove how much was Sidious holding back. Shortly after the Battle of Fortress Vader, Darth Vader entered a portal constructed by Lord Momin to resurrect his wife Padmé Amidala. you didn't debunk anything, Writers who wrote the Canon have already said a battle can go either way With Vader Vs Sidious, but that Sidious has the edge. Kanan has even taken down The Grand Inquisitor, which is pretty impressive. Rebels Ahsoka only has two feats anyway, which is blocking a weakened Sidious's force lightning using the force and contending with Vader. You have no Proof it was huge amp, and Regardless it already Stated Rebels is Vader Prime which mean he is in his best during rebels. I gave 2 contradictory quotes. Who are you talking about who was better than ROTS Obi-wan? These feats seem to line up with each other in terms of how powerful Ahsoka is and it is all we have, which means that she IS that powerful. Vader is not >>> than Mace. He was born to Ephraim and Mira Bridger, two outspoken opponents of the Imperial regime on Lothal. Vader kills him by endangering the lives of the citizens of his city, which distracts him, and Vader snaps his neck. The character is a primary antagonist in the original trilogy and a primary protagonist in the prequel trilogy. Maul and Ahsoka are already a hard fight for Vader that could honestly go either way. Kanan and Ezra yes, but they might just trip up Ahoska or Maul and make it more difficult. Quote/Scan? You need to prove that it Gave Vader a massive huge boost. The only person alive who can kill Vader is Palpatine but this is definitely the best team alive to try it and i think they could get close. Stomping and not being a pushover are mutually exclusive. Its up there with Anakin vs Obi-Wan Ep3, Maul vs Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon Jinn Ep1, Vader vs Luke Ep5&6, and any of the best ones from SW The Clone Wars. Vader Defeated someone superior to ROTS Obi-wan his first day in the Suit. I gave you scans stating Vader was much more powerful than even Dark side Amp Anakin. Yeah he is stupid powerfull in the new comics. Again your Arguments doesn't make any Sense what so ever. Ezra would be mortally wounded immediately, which woukd distract Kanan and then Kanan would be dead soon after. Vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith) Everyone refers to the Battle … you just said Sidious>Vader. Thanks to @lord_tenebrous for the quotes. For all we know, Vader could come out near death with tons of wounds on him after a duel that lasted 10 minutes and he had to stay in a bacta tank for days. By the time he was nine, he was discovered by Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn, who came to believe that Skywalker was the Chosen One of Jedi lore, destined to destroy the Sith and bring balance to The Force. Working in tandem? Probably the team. You have no proof that Ahsoka did not significantly increase and reach his level. like I said above your arguments don't make any sense. They never even fought, and we have no proof that the originally planned out fight between Maul and Vader would end in seconds. The problem is Ezra and Kanan would have to take out Vader extremely quickly in order to assist Ashoka and Kenobi with the fact that by then, they'd be losing their respective duels. shipping: + C $38.28 shipping . Ok, here we Go! Does that mean Vader was seriously amped? Dooku Scales above that feat he is stated to be greater then him as per canon. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Vader was most feared and one of the top dark side users ever. He's still powerful and effective but the playing field has been leveled especially against agile opponents like Ahsoka and Maul. Also, Mace had a Vaapad amp against Sidious, a unique thing that allowed him to beat Sidious despite being weaker. However, I do believe she genuinely blocked Sidious's lightning in the temple because he was weakened and he had no reason to hold back. However, Vader survived the crash. Ahsoka is the real threat here because of Maul's age. In that scan, Ahsoka is just as massively pre-prime, so not sure what that proves. Vader was probably also held back to some small degree by the Anakin inside him against Ahsoka, against a youngling and random padawan he wouldn't have that sentimentality and could exploit Ahsoka and Kanan by killing Ezra. Given that passive force shields don't exist in canon Vader loses hard here. you just said Sidious>Vader. Anyway, this really doesn't make much sense, because I don't see someone growing so much in three days after being put in a suit that they could beat someone they lost to three days ago while having no lightsaber and an injured leg. It is impressive that Vader could push Ashoka back in the duel enough to force push her off the cliff, but if Ahsoka was in that position, she could have done it too, as evidenced by her pushing Vader far back. Vader in the Comic was able to force lift a sea of Lava above His castle. Rebels for what it was is a good show, but Vader was nerf to high hell in that Series. Growing up a slave, he and his mother belonged to Gardulla the Hutt and later to a Toydarian junk dealer named Watto. Based on the new comics showcasing Vaders combat prowess, I honestly don't think they would have stood a chance. When Kanan was about to fight with Vader, he and Ezra sensed a cold feeling when Vader arrived or is nearby. Star Wars Rebels KANAN, Ezra + Speeder, SABINE WREN, Vader, AHSOKA TANO - Used. You just shot yourself in the foot, as the saying goes, and gave me evidence. Care to dbunk it? Darth Vader is a fictional character in the Star Wars franchise. Ezra Bridger was a human male Jedi Padawan who, as an orphan on the Outer Rim planet of Lothal, became a rebel fighter and revolutionary leader in the early rebellion against the Galactic Empire. Additionally, Vader did not even have Ahsoka at his mercy yet, which means we can infer that Ahsoka could have kept on fighting for more time after that. All we know is that Maul would have died fighting Vader before he fought Ahsoka, and we have no evidence that it would be easy. That fine if he thinks that, just as long as we come to the same conclusion that Vader is still Vastly superior to Both of them at their best. How is Ezra stronger in the force than Kanan? After recovering the Darksaber, the ancient lightsaber wielded by the first Mandalorian Jedi and the ancestral leaders… Then he fights an old Ben who wants to die, a cocky and barely trained Luke, and then a slightly less cocky and only slightly more trained Luke. Also so that he could show off by effortlessly lifting that AT-ST because he's a narcissistic jerk. Vader is stated to be Vastly Greater than Both of them as per Canon statements from Disney. In Clone Wars, she seemed to be a really powerful duelist...like even more than Obi-Wan and other Jedi masters. I told you after Vader was Bloodlusted Ahsoka didn't even Last 40 seconds against him, and Dave already said Vader can Destroy Ahsoka in a duel. In pure skill most likely. Definition of pushover: "a person who is easy to overcome or influence." Most likely hyperbole that the jedi was better. That's just it though, even if we assume they all agree to fight together, who says they are an effective team? Sidious is > than Vader. Kanan Jarrus He prefers using Form 3 of lightsaber combat, but he is also fairly skilled in form 5. However, they specifically mentioned power, which is not equal to skill. Ahsoka doesn't properly let loose against Vader until Ezra is safe and out of the room, to the degree it humbles him entirely. Also, the quote specifically said potential, so it is not referring to power. I am of the personal opinion that Vader exceeded Anakin in the force, but not in dueling. Don't know a whole lot about Rebels, but it still might be close tbh. Of course, we can't know whether having the others there would be a benefit or determent to Ahsoka, who might have only been able to fight all out (and still not kill Vader) because she knew Ezra and Kanan were safe and that she needed to keep Vader from them. We've already seen weaker versions of Kanan and Ezra body a pre-occupied Vader. Don't see where Filoni said Ahsoka could easily be beaten by a fresh Vader, let alone one who had just fought another Ahsoka-tier character in Maul. We say she was about to sacrifice them both by having the temple collapse. Ezra's survival chances are low and Kanan's aren't great. It's also a bit ironic as Anakin taught her how to fight people bigger than her. Logically, I would say Vader grew more from Rebels to ROTJ, or at least did not regress so much that ROTJ Sidious could stomp ROTJ Vader while Rebels Sidious could not do that to Rebels Vader. It should be the other way around, Rebels Sidious should be Significantly more powerful than ROTS Sidious...while ROTJ Sidious should only be Marginally more powerful than Rebels Sidious. yes, the Vader comic feats are canon. Star Wars Rebels Seventh Sister Inquisitor & Darth Maul 3.75" 2 Pack Rogue One. otherwise show me a scan which says she is in sidious level of power, Because Dave out right said ezra was needed to help Ahsoka against out against Vader...and even said Vader was going to destroy her. Which is why I keep telling you that those words are contradicted by Feats and portrayal. If we go by feats Vader force chokes Her before The fight starts. Yeah, I have a hard time gauging Ahsoka's power levels. by 'will of the force' you mean plot armor. The one on Malachor was a small one, it was also Removed from the Obelisks before it exploded. You need to prove that different Kyber-Crystal Make different size explosion. I do not, but I do not consider Vader to be in it either. Vader defeated him without the use of a Light saber and with a injured leg. Until that episode we never really see Vader face anyone of much threat. Are those Vader comic feats canon? 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